The Only Reason I Keep Facebook Is To Watch Photographers Fight

The Only Reason I Keep Facebook Is To Watch Photographers Fight

I do not like Facebook. It feels like a haunted time capsule that insists on reminding me of who I was 14 years ago. It pops up with posts like a close-up of a dandelion paired with Death Cab for Cutie lyrics. Or it digs up photos from my first “portrait sessions” in 2009, when my friends graciously stood in front of my camera so I could figure out what aperture even meant. Every time I log in, it feels like an unwelcome nostalgia trip.

And yet, I have not deleted it. There is one very specific reason Facebook remains on my phone, and I think a lot of other photographers are in the same boat. I keep Facebook so I can watch photographers fight in Facebook groups.

Why Photography Facebook Group Fights Are So Addictive

I am not proud of this, but I am also not alone. I have industry friends who send me screenshots from the same groups we all lurk in. No context. No commentary. Just a wall of text and an eyeball emoji. It is our guilty pleasure.

Humans have always had a fascination with watching conflict. From Roman gladiators to medieval duels to modern-day UFC, there has always been an audience for competition. Even professional wrestling, with its scripted drama, draws a crowd. I am not buying pay-per-view fights, but I will scroll through a Facebook group thread for 15 straight minutes just to watch an argument unfold.

And let’s be honest: a heated comment section is our industry’s version of a coliseum.

Why Are Photographers Like This?

Photography is one of the few creative fields where “community over competition” seems to be more of a slogan than a reality. Painters rarely brawl in public forums over brushstroke technique. Musicians do not usually get into comment wars about microphone placement. But photographers? We will argue about anything.

An Insecurity in the Industry as Old as the Medium Itself

Some of this could potentially be traced back to the early days of photography, when the medium struggled for legitimacy as an art form. Traditional artists questioned whether it was even real art, and that insecurity never fully left the culture. Instead, it evolved into a sort of generational chip on the shoulder.

Combine that with the fact that photography is a skill with infinite approaches, and a client base that sometimes values trends over craft. With that, you have a recipe for constant disagreement. In a way, the fighting is baked into the culture.

The Anatomy of a Photographer Facebook Fight

Most of these fights start innocently enough. Someone will post a story about a difficult client situation, one where it is obvious the photographer is in the right. The comments roll in. Ninety percent are supportive, sympathetic, and aligned with the original poster.

Then it happens.

One person decides to play Devil’s Advocate. They suggest the photographer should have done something differently, or that the client maybe had a point. That lone comment is the match that lights the powder keg.

Full-On Breakdowns in the Comments Section on Facebook

Within minutes, replies start stacking. The original poster defends themselves. The Devil’s Advocate digs in. Other members jump in to set the record straight. And suddenly, we have a 120-comment thread with a 20-v-1 pile-on against one stubborn commenter who refuses to back down.

Eventually, the thread spirals so far that an admin steps in. Sometimes the post gets locked. Other times, the original poster storms out of the group with a dramatic “I’m done here” exit comment. If we are lucky, someone gets banned.

Why It's Just So Hard to Look Away

The truth is, these fights are rarely groundbreaking. They are often about contracts, copyright disputes, or client etiquette. And yet, they are irresistible to watch unfold. It is reality TV in text form, with characters we half-recognize from previous posts.

Finding Shreds of Community in the Midst of Chaos

Part of the fascination is that we see ourselves in these situations. We have all had difficult clients, questionable interactions, or fellow photographers who seemed a little too eager to offer unsolicited advice. Watching someone else navigate the conflict—and sometimes crash and burn in the process—scratches a very human itch.

It’s Not All Bad in Photography Facebook Groups

For all the drama, these groups can also be helpful. Sometimes, arguments reveal genuinely useful perspectives. A dissenting voice can spark a conversation that leads to better business practices or deeper understanding. Not every heated thread is a waste of time.

But the reality is, most of us are there for the entertainment. While Instagram is curated and polished, Facebook groups are raw. They show the unfiltered side of our industry, for better or worse.

So… What Are We Even Doing, Photographers?

Photographers, maybe we could tone it down a little. Or maybe not. Because as much as we might roll our eyes at the drama, we keep coming back for more.

These threads are our water cooler moments. They are where we collectively blow off steam, test our convictions, and sometimes waste an hour that could have been spent editing. But they are also a weirdly unifying experience. Even when we are arguing, we are still, in some way, in community with each other.

An Industry of Passionate (and Chaotic) Creatives

And maybe that is why I still keep Facebook around for now. Not for the memories it insists on resurfacing from 2009. Not for the business networking. Certainly not for the algorithm. But for the chaotic, messy, often ridiculous fights that remind me our industry is full of passionate, opinionated, sometimes combative people who care enough about what they do to argue about it publicly.

I guess it beats scrolling in silence.

Lead photo: NPS / Jacob W. Frank [Public Domain]

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Megan Breukelman is a wedding photographer with Megan & Kenneth based in the Hudson Valley, NY.

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The only reason I visit the internet is to watch people fight.

hahaha! I must admit, I love a good argument. That is why I spend so much time here on Fstoppers, because it is not censored and people are able to say whatever they want, even if it is disagreeable.

I love the first 5 words of the article. I'm simply cutting social media out of my digital life with dns-filtering.

I’m only on FB for marketplace. Every FB group I’ve tried participating in regardless of genre has quickly become repelling.

It’s actually a sadness I’ve experienced over the last few years. An unfulfilled desire to find community, but whether it’s photographers specifically or just a general symptom of people online every place I’ve tried reveals its toxicity soon enough. Usually via the same framework you describe above. Can’t remember how many times I’ve deleted my fstoppers or DPReview or whatever accounts, taken a break for a bit, then come back to try again only to get fed up a month or two later.

I left Facebook when Covid hit. So much nonsense and heated discussion with people who didn’t know anything about medical science.
The nicest experience I’ve had was on DigitalRev, it was such a nice and positive community, DigitalRev is long gone, but I’m still in contact with some of those people and have friendships with people from the other side of the world.
There are sometimes discussions on fstoppers that meet the Facebook criteria.

I prefer Seth Miranda's Discord server. It's a lively community without the trolls you find on Facebook. Daniel Norton also has a good Discord server.

Donald Meyers wrote:

"I prefer Seth Miranda's Discord server. It's a lively community without the trolls you find on Facebook."

This is so ironic because the very definition of discord would indicate the exact opposite of what you claim:

"Discord refers to a lack of harmony, agreement, or unity, whether among people, in sounds (dissonance), or in a general sense of conflict. It can manifest as disagreement, strife, or a confused, harsh noise, and can also be used as a verb to describe the act of disagreeing or clashing."

How bizarre and weird for anyone to have used such a nasty word for the name of their platform!

The app's creators chose the name because it "sounded cool," was memorable and easy to say, and nobody else had claimed it for a trademark.

I can't stand any online 'conversation' where one person spouts absolute nonsense and when challenged they have to keep responding and just doubling down on their nonsense, always wanting to be the one who gets to have the last say and very quickly resorting to insulting other people. It's almost like they are just trying to make out they are better than anyone else who disagrees with them. Sadly Fstoppers is not immune to this annoyance.

HaHa, I come to Fstoppers from time to time to read bs like this ;-)

I often have to stop myself writing ranty comments in response to nonsense articles on this site.

Megan Breukelman wrote:

"I do not like Facebook."

I do not like it either. Why? Because the user interface is so confusing that I can not figure out how to use it.

I am sure there is a lot of really good information on FB, info about wildlife locations that could help me find animals to photograph. But the whole site is so confusing that I just can't make sense of anything, and even though all that great information is there, I can not figure out how to find it because the platform is so user-unfriendly and non-intuitive.

Facebook is what you make it. I keep it around 'generally...' to keep up with family, but I have been known to talk about 'Star Trek' on FB.. haha. It learns you, it has been AI-ing stuff for a while, and the AI is continuing to evolve. Plus, if you don't want to see a 'Group' or 'Person' you can hide or block them, and the AI learns from that too, because it learns your practices. So yeah, if you start starring and liking Photography groups and posts, then yes it will show you nothing but photography groups. If you particularly like groups that 'fight'. it will give you a bunch of bad ones, because the AI will continue to push you all the ones that the AI thinks you might like all the more, since you spent time on similar ones before. The only way to reverse the trend is to start blocking those groups and getting rid of them off of your FB, so the AI knows, oh, maybe this guy wants something different... But hey we know that eventually the AI is going to take over and feed us all all stuff we don't want, and eventually run the universe... j/k.